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This is my apprenticeship in Montreux, Switzerland. It's about three years of learning. And then you graduate and then you go to the next one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=0.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: which is right here, right? Okay, from there on, I went to a very prestigious restaurant in Lausanne, Switzerland. Very upscale restaurant. As we look at those slides, I'll be moving every six months, every year. Maybe every eight months people think you're crazy. Well, because that's the way it is in our business. You don't stay there long. Once you learn what you need to learn, boom, you move on to somewhere else. So from this place here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=13.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: I went to the Swiss Army. That's me right here. Every Swiss guy at the age of 18 is required to go to the military. So I was drafted, had to go there, and then they wanted to keep me there, and I didn't want to. So in order to not go back with the Army. I had to get out of Switzerland, okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=42.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: So I studied right here in Montreux, this is Lake Geneva, right here. This is France here, this is France too, and this is Lausanne and Geneva is right down here. So Switzerland is very small, but by showing this picture you have an idea of like, oh my God, so this guy went here, he went here. And after Geneva, not only.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=63.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Okay, this is Geneva, picture of Geneva, very cosmopolitan town, international. known for banking, primarily hotels and stuff like that. Then from Geneva I went to London.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=84.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: That's my first contact with the English language. I was 20 years old. I didn't know a word of English. I went to a school there, the Swiss Mercantile College in London. So was there eight months?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=94.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: From eight months I go to Barcelona to learn Spanish. I was there at the Academia for about eight months, two, six months. And then this is, let me have it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=108.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Okay, so this is Zurich. that I spent about over a couple of years here. Up the mountain here, there was an American hotel, Atlantis hotel, and another hotel in Zurich. So Zurich is kind of like my town. I've been there, I know the town very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=117.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: So Scandinavian airline system. From Zurich, I went to Oslo, work for airline. And that was quite a difference, you know, prepping food for airline. Totally different concept of prepping food. prepping food, I'm sorry, that gets into an airplane and it's reheated up there. I mean, it was an eye-opener.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=133.0,153.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Then from there, I went to Bermuda, worked for Princess Hotels, to right down here, Horseshoe Beach. I mean, I was like culture shocked to go from Oslo to, you know, Bermuda is about 600 mile east of the American coast there. So, of course, American tourists, full of American. Spring break, oh my God, the whole island is invaded. Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=153.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: All right, then from there, it's an interesting, this is a hotel, Southampton Princess. I went back there five years ago with a friend and his wife that celebrated their anniversary, so I said let's go back. It was fun, it was fun, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=179.0,188.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: And then, oh, this is a cruise ship I worked on, Royal Caribbean Cruise Line, and that was a totally different, what do you call, culture. Again, working for cruise ships, airline, you know. It was a totally different thing. We went from Miami down to the Caribbean all the way to Caracas, South America. And now they go everywhere in the globe. They go all around. But they, see, I still like those kind of ship. You see those new ship going out. They look like a building of 7,000 passengers. Hello? No, I was there, it was eight hundred, eight hundred passengers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=188.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: And from there, this is now I went to Singapore from the, all the way down to, that's another. culture shock. I mean, you know, you're a Westerner, you're American. Everybody look at me like, are you American? Are you American? Oh yeah. Okay. Don't worry. Well, it was a totally different culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=226.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: From Singapore. I went back to Switzerland because one of the top hotel restaurant school had an opening because I had a pride years ago and I couldn't get in. Then I contacted my mom and dad and said, Hey, guess what? My mom says, hey, you want to go? I said, yeah, let's do it. All right. So, so. I live in Singapore, it's a long trip from Singapore back to Switzerland. We fly to the Indian Ocean, then we went to Columbus, India, and then from India to the French colony Seychelles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=240.0,267.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: See the next slide you can see Seychelles Islands are right here, then I flew to Nairobi and I took one of those. But you know it's funny, I was with two American GIs in 1975. Vietnam. Vietnam was closing down and I knew them from Singapore. We did that trip together. Rented a Jeep and a guy in two, you know, guy had a weapon and we drove from Nairobi up here to Mombasa on the coast. It was a week, beautiful, you know, the animals and all that stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=267.0,297.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Then I flew back to Switzerland from here. Here's my hometown right here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=297.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: And then I came back to Tulsa Oklahoma right here, right? And I worked at Dr. Bob and George, Bob and me. And we had a bunch of students there on internship. And I remember Dr. Bob and Bob flew up there. I was there already. And there was another great story about internship, right? It's a big deal, internship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=301.0,323.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: That's the old Saint Francis San Francisco. That's a new one. I was there for about a year before I came to Tulsa, Oklahoma. I was the director of restaurants. There was eight restaurants there. So it's not like it was just a little. guy from Sapulpa, you look at those, what? Yeah. So it's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, it was experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=323.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: And that's what this department needed. I had a lot of resistance when I came here because of... But I never promoted my history or whatever. I just did what I thought it was right for me to do. And having said that, we can start to talk about the questionnaire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=343.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Yes, hello. This is the Oral History Series for the Oklahoma State University Institute of Technology. I am Clint Girkin, the Archivist, and we have a very special guest, former Head of Culinary Arts, Chef Jungo. Can you please introduce yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=364.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Yeah, I'm Rene Jungo. I'm the former instructor, assistant division chair, and Dean of the Culinary Arts School here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=379.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Yes, we have a series of questions. What were your positions prior to joining OSUIT?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=389.0,396.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Okay, I was the executive sous chef at DoubleTree at Warren Place. And a friend of mine, Luger Schultz, who was chef at the Westin Hall downtown Tulsa, made me aware that there was an opening here in Okmulgee, so I guess what, I just applied for the job and the rest was just history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=396.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: What led you to OSUIT?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=419.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Oh, okay, well... That's a friend, Luca Schultz, made me aware that there was an opening here and he recommended that I applied and I did. And a few days later, I was contacted by the department head and we met and I came down here and talked to Dr. Bob and that was it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=421.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Next question. Can you please describe what your position was here at OSUIT and what it entailed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=443.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, I was hired as a culinary instructor, and later I was a promoter to assistant to the division chair, and then later on, the last 10 years, I was a dean of the School of Culinary Arts. Now, I can't go into detail about the job description who will be here until six o'clock tonight, if I'll tell you about. Those were the position, the job description, are a totally different book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=451.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, so how did you feel at the state of the culinary arts program when you started working here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=479.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Okay, I, after observing it for, it took me about a couple of months to figure, to look around and observe it. I was disappointed. I was pretty sad to see how, you know, the Culinary department was running. So I knew that we needed to do something, a dramatic change. So that's what my first impression was. was. It took me about a couple of years to reevaluate the situation and I had a lot of resistance from the people working here. They see a new guy coming in until I convinced Dr. Bob and the administration to hire some new faculty and those new faculty were John Shermont, he was executive chef downtown Double Tree, Dan Broyle, who was executive chef DoubleTree at one place. I came from DoubleTree at one place. There were all hotel people. You know, you get totally different talent there. And then once we had those people on board, I think we started to re-evaluate and create, you know, those introductory class, dining room, skill one, skill two, garage manager and so on. And also our continuing education. That was provided to me and most other workers. We went to the Culinary Institute in New York, Johnson and Wales in Rhode Island, to see what they were doing, to see the curriculum. And then we brought some of the staff back here. And I think another good one was when we joined the American Culinary Federation. There was already a chapter in Tulsa, but we needed to join them to boost up the students' dreams. They say, look, belong to a club, belong to an organization. So that went very well. That was very well. So, all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=486.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, so next question. How has the culinary arts program changed during and throughout your tenure?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=612.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, I think one of the first things that we, or I requested, so let's look at the mission statement. You're going to go to culinary arts program, okay? What is a law? What is a Bible? Well, the Bible is a mission statement. In the mission statement, it says, what are your primary objectives to teach introductory basic Culinary Arts, slash baking, pastry, but basic introduction? So I think that sometimes, from what I see now, you get classes in there at that level. Should there be, I think there should be more on the basic training. and that's why I'm gonna leave it at that, otherwise I'll step on some feet, okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=619.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, so the next question is, I believe the Culinary Arts Program was at one point, the program was called Hospitality Services, so do you know how and why the name changed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=660.0,671.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Yes, I think it was called Hospitality Services Technology. What does that mean? It was strange to most people, what is it? Well, it's a confusion which OSU Stillwater. Everybody thought we were Stillwater. Stillwater said we were, oh no, it was confusing. We needed to separate ourselves from Stillwater. We needed to be Culinary Arts, and we became Culinary Arts. Once people thought, oh, okay, cooking, administrative in Stillwater, good, I'm going here. So that was a big mix-up at the beginning. People didn't understand what it was, Hospitality Services. Oh, we changed. I remember the faculty wearing orange jackets. And I told Dr. Bob and Dr. Bob, I said, look, you want to act like one, we need to look like one. So let's go into white jacket checker pants like the chefs are. And I went for it. And I was like, wow, yeah, now we're moving. Very slowly, but we're moving up. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=671.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, next question. I believe we used to have a Dietetic Technology program. Do you remember this program? Can you describe it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=735.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Yes, I remember it vividly. I personally never get too close with dietitians. I call them keyboard technicians. The only thing they can do is to use a computer. Fantastic. Great, great ability to talk and make presentation. But how I thought in my book, if you're a dietitian, you need to know how to cook. You need to show and convince me. This food is better than this. They could not actually cook. And guess what? They died. The program went down the tube. People thought, well, there's some other stories. If you just take a 2000 level Dietetic class versus a 4000 level, you know, like go to Stillwater, then you have a better option later on to join hospitals or whatever. So that's why the Dietetic didn't make it. And yeah, I'm trying. I'm still looking. So the Dietetic kind of died away. And then at that time, the Baking program was also struggling. And I saw an opportunity there. But I was still a faculty. I was not an assistant. I was not the leader. I was just a good old faculty. But I saw, I went to, Bob said, this is time to put the pedal to the metal. And we exploded. Culinary program took off like, but we had the right people. Dan Broyle, John Shurmont. The new people, you know, we had, yeah, 200 students, right? That was maybe a little too much, but the people were in place, we had the right teachers. And that's where that thing went crazy. Well, you know, recruiting. I was recruiting, I created a class, we took students twice a week, went all the way around the state, doing a little demonstration, having a tasting, I mean. What a great opportunity to recruit, by having people smell, right, look and taste. So that was another great tool for us to make people aware we're here. Every Vo-Tech technical school in, I mean, I should say food related, we visited all the way from Broken Bow to Enid to all the way down the other side of the state, we visited them. It was a long day, but that was a part of, I thought, the expectation. want to grow you need to move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=745.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, next question. How do you feel about the current state of the Culinary Arts program?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=890.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, that's a tough one. You have to be very careful how I answer that. In my book I worked on cruise ships, always had great relationship with the captain. I was a sailor myself, I sailed. The way I look at it right now, there is a ship without a captain. That's very clear, isn't it? There's a ship without a captain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=895.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, next question. What famous chefs or culinary superstars have visited campus? How is their experience here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=913.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, let's see here. We had the term the superstars. You know, I was never really enthused by superstars. I like to be down to earth. But we had some, we had once the executive chef from Disney World in Florida, who came here. It was a great promotion for cooking, so he was great. And then, I didn't know him personally, but he made an impact on, you know, for one week everybody came and looked at that. Then we had another one, Markus Farbinger, an Austrian certified chocolate and sugar master. He came here for a weekend, and we had, we sold out the class, it was 20 people signed up. I mean, him. That was, someone who makes a demonstration to me is a master. Someone who just come and talk and show a few PowerPoint presentations, show me something. Let me taste. So, but that's, and there were a few others, but nothing to talk about that too much now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=920.0,980.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay. Next question. What is your proudest accomplishment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=980.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: That is such a great question. I would answer by first of all, thank the OSU system for having given me the opportunity to grow. I came here, had a lot of experience, but I had very little experience in passing my skills across people. The learning skill, I didn't know that. I was pretty bad at it. Screaming, you know, but that was my model. You know, in a kitchen you can't speak like in a church. You've got to be loud, you know, you have to get people's attention. Demo! People say, what is he talking about? Demo was demonstration. Everybody come over here. And then I show them and they go back. And I think some of the accomplishments, you know, sometimes I look at the picture. I have a lot of pictures. The one and only culinary apprenticeship program in the state we did. Here is a picture of Dr. Bob, also the Department of Labor. So that was something. That was a... I'm like, hey, chef, you're doing all right. I was only faculty, right? And then the next one here is the food show participation in Chicago at McCormick. Well, we went there, we didn't make it, like we didn't win a medal, but the experience of going there and to look at the student, you know, and they were like, ah, you know, it was a great, great experience. And then another big one here. is a picture of the PGA golf tournament in Tulsa, which were the huge things. So what happened, instead of having the classes here, we would have the classes on a golf course. I mean, they had big, huge trucks. The kitchen was three semis lined to each other, and the student met in there, and I mean, he was hell on wheels, okay? But that was, those are accomplishments. And then, this picture here. This is a... the first hundred years of Oklahoma. I mean, OSU, I'm sorry, first hundred years of OSU. Here's a Native American, me, Dr. Bob. So I also think that we did a lot of work with OSU. Stillwater, every time we went there for the Jimmy Carter Foundation fundraising. Who did they call? They called us. We went up there numerous times. For Jimmy Carter, we went for OSU, a hotel restaurant. fundraising as well, they called us, we weren't there. So it was, and then needless to say, our relationship with the American Culinary Federation, the Culinary, I mean, the CIA, Culinary Institute of America, and Johnson and Wales, that helps us, helped us, I'm sorry, to promote what we were doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=984.0,1152.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Okay, next question. What were your biggest challenges?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1152.0,1155.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: I think my biggest challenge again was the resistance. I was, I came from, I was executive sous chef, I, you know, the chef told me what to do, and I made sure the people below me did it. And if they didn't, well, things would hit the fan, right? So I couldn't do that here. I had to be a little more diplomatic. So that was a big, a big challenge, a big challenge. And I, how did I handle that? Well, I had the connection in Tulsa, Lucas Shultz, chef at the Westin, the other chefs at one place. call them all the time and say, what do you think? So we had a great advisory board group who came here. They came here and they looked at it. I made the report and in the report they were saying, look, we need to talk. So I made someone else doing what I was supposed to do, which was, hey, that's the way it is. Right? All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1155.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: I believe that's all the questions. So do you have any closing remarks before we close it out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1208.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, I tell you what, the budget, you know, whenever whenever I dealt with the budget, it was a constant struggle. And the reason was the budgets changed every semester. If a class had 30 students or the next semester had 10, well, the budget went up and down. And it was very difficult to convince the administration the budget needs to be adjusted according to the enrollment. Oh gosh. Well, that was a struggle. That was a struggle. We were definitely under budget. Okay, the internship program was a huge program. The student used to go Aspen, Colorado, famous homestead Virginia, all the way to Bangkok, Thailand, and of course, Tulsa. The summer club and the White House. We even went there on a field trip to see my friend, Roland Mezny, who was a pastry chef. I think Dr. Bob was with us and, no, George Babb, yeah. So those are great stories. Hey, guess what? They went to the White House, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1214.0,1283.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: That is cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1283.0,1284.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: That's cool, isn't it? Yeah. And I used to work at the Southampton Princess Hotel in Bermuda. And I was, I guess I was trying to make an internship location for them, but I was told that there was maybe a little too much of a dream. So I said, all right, well, might as well try, you know. Same thing for an internship on a cruise ship. I worked there too, I still had the contact. However, it was a little more complicated to get a student on a ship from, I mean from Oklahoma, but I thought it would have been a nice touch to have a student working on a cruise ship. Okay, now for the final one and the best, I've been retired eight years, right? And I still do so much for the program. Here's one of them. I teach cooking at the Saint Francis Hospital. And if you look at this here, it says, “Learn how to cook with Rene, one of the retired deans of School of Culinary Arts, OSU Okmulgee.” And I just completed the last class yesterday. And I do this in the summer, we're closed, but we'll reopen in the fall. There is still a big, huge promotion. I still promote, I walk around with this. And people like it. And I'll continue to do this. Because I left eight years ago, said something that needed to be said but I have no regrets. I look back and I say I'm glad I was here. I'm glad I met a lot of people and I thank OSU for giving me the opportunity to be here. And also in closing I still have a lot of contact students who graduated from here 20 years ago. They're in business in Manford, the stay in steak house. in Beggs, Oklahoma, Oscar Trujillo. He has not one, he has two restaurants. And those are the kind of stories I think the department need to jump on and promote them and let people know, look, look what happened to those people. So I also do, also it's amazing, I go and I belong with a group of retired policemen. People ask me, what are you doing with the policemen? Well, they're old sailors. We used to belong to a sailing club in Luluga. And now I'm retired, I'm with them. And we visit schools in Tulsa. Hoover Elementary School, second grade, third grade, fourth grade, and we go in there and spend time with the student. So people introduce the policeman, and they say, oh, and by the way, this is a chef. It's from OSUIT, I mean, Okmulgee. I get mobbed by those kids. They come, they want to know what is it like, and this and that, and I tell them. I show them pictures and stuff like that. So I'm retired from here, but. It's still in my blood. I still get up at five in the morning. I don't have to call the campus. Are we open or closed now? But the fact of the matter is it's still in there. I think it always will be there, okay? So I think this is the end of my speech here. Didn't do bad at all, did it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1284.0,1467.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Yeah, I think you did really well. Thank you for the stories you told. We're very grateful to have you here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1467.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chef Rene Jungo: Well, thank you. Thank you for having me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1473.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/80113/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clinton Girkin: Yeah, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=1474.0,1520.95347"}]},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/91249","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Rene Jungo Oral History Transcript - Captions 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Montreux,\nSwitzerland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=3.25,6.5"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/91249/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's about three years of learning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746#t=6.5,9.75"},{"id":"https://osuitlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3305/collection_resources/149135/file/273746/transcript/91249/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you graduate and then you go to\nthe next 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